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Разница в понятиях в MC и RC (Ridings) клубах

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MC: What is expected of a Prospect...
RC: What is expected of a RC member ...

MC: As a Prospect, strive to conduct yourself as a responsible Patchholder at all times.
RC: As a RC member, strive to conduct yourself in a responsible manner so as to not give your club a bad name. Whether you are wearing your patch or not, common courtesy and respect for ANY individual you make contact with will always leave a good impression of you, your club and motorcyclists in general.

MC: Always display a positive attitude.
RC: Always display a positive attitude.

MC: Participate as much as you think is acceptable; then participate more.
RC: Participate as much as you are comfortable with.  You joined to ride and meet others with the same interest, but the more you participate the more you will get to know others and enjoy the experience. You will only get out of it that you put into it.

MC: If you see a Patchholder of your group that you have not met, take the initiative to introduce yourself as.. "Prospect (your name)."
RC: It’s always good to introduce yourself to fellow club members.

MC: At all gatherings, make it a point to circulate when you have the time to do so and greet every Patchholder who is there.
RC: It’s always good to meet new people.

MC: Don't get overly friendly with someone that is not a regular acquaintance of the club. If someone outside the club has questions, refer them to a Patchholder. Never give out a Patchholder's name, phone number, address, or any personal information to anyone outside the club.
RC: Meeting new people is one of the things a RC is about. Answer questions as you are able. If you don’t know the answer to a question, refer the questioner to someone you think might know, such as one of the officers of your club. Don’t give out personal information unless you know that the person being asked about wants it given out; that's only common sense.

MC: Never give out any information about the club itself to outsiders. This includes, but is not limited to, where the club is based, how many members are in the club, etc.
RC: RCs aren't normally out to hide anything. They are just a riding club and as such, really don’t have much in the way of club business. If you know of sensitive private matters concerning the RC then it is expected that you would use good judgement in not sharing it with others who are not involved.

MC: While in public places, always conduct yourself with your association with the club in mind. Remember that what you do, people will remember; good or bad.
RC: While in public places, always conduct yourself with your association with your club in mind. Remember that what you do, people will remember; good or bad. The public perception of anyone who rides a bike should be considered and a good attitude is always the kind of perception we want to present, club or no club.

MC: Never let a Patchholder walk off alone in an unsecured area. If he/she is going out to their car, bike, or even just out to get some fresh air, go with them. Watch their back at all times.
RC: Never let someone go off alone without someone keeping an eye on them, especially in this day and time.

MC: Remember who you are 24 hours a day. Your association doesn't go on and off with your colors.
RC: You should always conduct yourself responsibly when dealing with other people, including e-mails and on the internet. RCs do not have colors - the patch is a purchased patch that shows you are a part of a riding club whose purpose is to get together to ride  motorcycles and enjoy the companionship of others with a similar interest.

MC: Out of respect, if two or more Patchholders are having a private conversation, don't approach them within earshot, especially if they are talking with a Patchholder of another club. If you feel that you need to interrupt, put yourself in a place of visibility and wait to be acknowledged.
RC: It’s only common courtesy not to interrupt a conversation or evesdrop.

MC: NEVER use the term "Outlaw Club" when speaking to a member of another club.
RC: NEVER use the term "Outlaw Club" or any of the other names they are known by when speaking to strangers (you never know when one of them might be a member of an MC, be a support member or know members of an MC).

MC: Never lie to a member of another club. If you are in a situation where you are asked about the club or its membership, it is acceptable to say "That seems like club business and I really can't talk about it". If this doesn't put the subject to rest, offer to put them in touch with a Patchholder for them to speak with.
RC: Never lie to anyone. Either answer the question or refer the questioner to someone who can.

MC: Always show respect to a Patchholder of another club. Even though they are with another club, they earned their patch.
RC: Show respect for other people, club or not. It’s the polite thing to do.

MC: Never call a Patchholder of another club "brother". He's not your brother.
RC: Never call a member of another club "brother". If he is a friend and you two consider each other brothers, wait for him to address you as such in public.

MC: Remember, your patch is earned, it is not given to you.
RC: RCS don't earn their patches. The patch has no meaning except that it indicates you belong to a club that you signed up for and associate with.

MC: Never bring a personal friend or a stranger into the presence of Patchholders without asking permission to do so first.
RC: It’s great to introduce new people to the group; just make sure you don't interrupt a conversation when doing so.

MC: At an open function, never turn your back to a Patchholder of another club. This is not so much for safety reasons, but as a show of respect.
RC: It’s always polite to face the individual or group you are talking to.

MC: Always show respect and courtesy to Patchholders of other clubs. Don't come across like you want to be best friends. Be professional in such encounters; keep it short, then move on.
RC: Always show respect and courtesy to everyone, club or not.

MC: Never be quick to walk up to a Patchholder of another club in a public setting, even if you know them well and the clubs are on friendly terms. If you want to greet them, walk up slowly and wait for them to indicate that they want such a public display to take place. They may be on some club business and may not want to give the general public the impression that the clubs are on such friendly terms. If they look like they are going to ignore you accept it and keep your distance, the best approach is always to wait for them to come to you and let everyone else see that.
RC: Use common courtesy and common sense.

MC: Learn what different parts of our patch represent and what the different color combination of yours and other clubs represent.
RC: A RC  patch should never be referred to as colors. RCs should NEVER wear any kind of location banner with their patch and NEVER wear any kind of support patch for any other MC. RC patches are usually bought – not earned.

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Попробую перевести на днях

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MC: Never call a Patchholder of another club "brother". He's not your brother.
RC: Never call a member of another club "brother". If he is a friend and you two consider each other brothers, wait for him to address you as such in public.

для MC : Никогда не называй носителя цветов другого клуба "братом" . ОН не твой брат.
для RC : Никогда не называй члена другого клуба "братом".  Если он друг и вы друг друга считаете братьями, подожди когда он к тебе так обратиться прилюдно.

MC: Remember, your patch is earned, it is not given to you.
RC: RCS don't earn their patches. The patch has no meaning except that it indicates you belong to a club that you signed up for and associate with

для MC : Помни , твои цвета тебе не даны, ты их заработал.
для RC : RC цвета не заработаны. Эти цвета ничего не значат, кроме того , что ты принадлежишь и связан с определённым клубом.

MC: Always show respect to a Patchholder of another club. Even though they are with another club, they earned their patch.
RC: Show respect for other people, club or not. It’s the polite thing to do.

для MC : Всегда проявляй уважение к носителю цветов другого клуба. Даже если это другой клуб, они их заработали.
для RC : Проявляй уважение ко всем людям, клубным или нет. Это очень вежливо.

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Я тут из интереса посмотрел русский ХД клуб( что-то вроде HOG Russia)....

6. Порядок приема в Клуб и выхода из него.
6.1. Клуб открыт для вступления новых членов.
6.2. Прием нового члена Клуба осуществляется Советом Офицеров Клуба на основании поданного им и заверенного двумя офицерами заявления на имя Директора Клуба, который представляет заявителя на ближайшем со дня подачи заявления Совете Офицеров.
6.3. Заявитель обязан в течение 10 дней со дня принятия решения Советом Офицеров о приеме в члены Клуба внести вступительный взнос.
6.4. Кандидат считается принятым в число членов Клуба после внесения вступительного взноса.
6.5. Права членов Клуба не могут быть переданы третьим лицам.
6.6. Выход члена из состава Клуба осуществляется путем подачи письменного заявления. При неоплате ежегодного членского взноса выход члена из состава Клуба осуществляется без его письменного заявления.
6.7. Вступительные и периодические взносы членов Клуба при их выходе из Клуба возврату не подлежат.

Просто можно купить "цвета" -на деньги которые заработал, т.е заработать цвета))))

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ну тут заработал всё таки другой смысл имеет ))) где вот так скорее ... для RC : RC цвета не заработаны. Эти цвета ничего не значат, кроме того , что ты принадлежишь и связан с определённым клубом.

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Согласен! Заработать доверие- это не то же самое, что купить!

Я как-то спросил на очередной пьянке в Сиэттле одного американского байкера, (он очень любил тусить с русскими, и из-за обилия молодых русских барышень и обилия бухла)))  владельца 3-х мотоциклов ХД c 30-стажем члена клуба Veterans MC: "как ты относишься к НОG'?
И что он ответил, к моему удивлению)))
HOG??? это полные мудаки!!!  они считают что они круче других, просто купив мото ХД, а на самом деле они лохи и мажоры)))!
Такое мнение рядового американского байкера,  по поводу US HOG))

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...а почему к удивлению ?  это закономерно, ХОГи маскимально ассоциируют себя с байкерами, и точно так же нормальные МС клубы стараются от них дистанцироваться ибо ХОГ'и  это псевдокультура с внешними атрибутами и порой внутренними, полноценного байк клуба.

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Муляж в общем ))))
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Клуб владельцев мотоцикла определённой марки и определённой модели - это просто клуб по интересам. Таких клубов великое множество и попасть туда может любой владелец соответствующего аппарата, при условии, что он не конченый мудаг. Это совершенно иная тема, нежели МС. Сравнивать их не возможно.

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да в общем думаю, тут все с этим согласны ) .. а вот по поводу сравнений совсем наоборот... именно это пытаются чуваки сделать сравнивая понятия для райдеров и МС. Это важно ибо многие , особенно молодёжь не всегда представляют разницу. И тут спокойные советы , я имею ввиду англ. текст, а не пафосное нравоучение, что так частенько раздражает достойных людей ) И в сравнении познается суть , для каждого своя , какой дорогой идти . Вступать в клуб и брать на себя ответственность за других, или просто катать баб и кричать что я свободен и идите все на хуй. Обе позиции достойные наверное , просто они РАЗНЫЕ.